Crime & Justice Festival 2014


Robert Gott, Sulari Gentill & me

The Crime & Justice Festival at Readers Feast Bookstore, now in it’s seventh year, is unique in bringing commentators and practitioners in the field of justice, together with crime writers, to explore the big issues of the day. I participated in three sessions on Day 1, all of which were both enlightening and entertaining.

First up was (Michael) Dan Mori, best known in Australia as the US Marine who defended David Hicks, talking to Russ Radcliffe about his new book, In the Company of Cowards. Dan is a natural story teller, engaging and down-to-earth, and his story is extraordinary.

He candidly admits to not having been ‘political’, having joined the Marines at 18 and never voted. When asked to defend David Hicks in a military commission established to prosecute detainees held at the US camp in Guantanamo Bay, his first reaction was disappointment. ‘So what did you do during the War on Terror?’ he quipped. ‘Well, I defended a terrorist.’

At first he ‘believed the hype’. But then he got inside the Hicks case, and realised the charges against him did not make sense. ‘Australians don’t have duty of allegiance to USA,’ Dan said. ‘So how can you charge an Australian with “aiding the enemy”?’

Dan Mori & Russ Radcliffe

Dan Mori & Russ Radcliffe

Dan gradually came to suspect that justice wasn’t purpose of the military commissions: none of accused been charged with war crime, and the invention of the new term ‘enemy combatant’, enabled people to be tried, but not protected under rules of war.

Using a sporting metaphor tailored for his Australian audience, Dan said, ‘the US military commission was the equivalent of letting a bowler make call on whether a delivery was LBW or not.’ He also noted that, had the system not been so incompetent, he wouldn’t have had chance to educate the Australian public on issues in Hicks case. The illegality of the US military commissions didn’t register much interest in the US because no Americans were detained in Guantanamo Bay.

Other things I learned from Dan Mori:

  • US military legal training, in addition to studying the Geneva Conventions, includes watching the film Breaker Morant (‘It’s wrong to shoot prisoners.’)
  • Marines consider Jack Nicholson’s battle hardened character Col Jessup (‘You can’t handle the truth!’) to be the hero of A Few Good Men, not Tom Cruise’s idealistic young lawyer
  • Mori was once threatened with charges of ‘using contemptuous language against the President’ (we’d all be stuffed if such charges existed in Australia in relation to our national leader!)

Next up I got to interview two of my favourite historical crime fiction writers, Sulari Gentill and Robert Gott. Sulari’s books are set in the 1930s and Robert’s in the 1940s, and while Robert bases his fiction on real events, Sulari takes it a step further and weaves real characters into her narratives. ‘I use my protagonist Rowland Sinclair to meet the people I would like to have met,’ she said. Given that Rowland Sinclair seems to meet everybody whose anybody, I suggested he was the Kevin Bacon of the 1930s…

Our discussion covered the technicalities of researching historical crime fiction: both authors rely on newspapers of the time — Robert recommends The Truth and Sulari The Australian Women’s Weekly — as much for the ads as the articles. Sulari reproduces extracts from newspaper articles in her books to enhance the credibility of her plots; while in The Holiday Murders, Robert use of fascist writings of the time has been acknowledged in the author’s notes.

À propos of Benedetto Croce’s line, “All history is contemporary history”, we also discussed how to accurately reflect attitudes of the time, while taking into account the sensibilities of the present. Both authors do this by focusing on ‘people who move against the flow of the times’, as Sulari put it — bohemians, independent women, homosexuals, Communists, Jews and national socialists — while also reflecting on the relevance of this period of history for the present day. Interesting to note that as her character Rowland Sinclair becomes more engaged in politics, so does his creator Sulari Gentill.

Morag Fraser & David Marr. Photo: Readers Feast

Morag Fraser & David Marr. Photo: Readers Feast

In the last session I attend for the day, Morag Fraser interviewed award-winning journalist David Marr about his new book, The Prince: Faith, Abuse and George Pell, expanded from his essay in The Quarterly. This was a tough session in terms of being reminded of the appalling crimes committed against children by priests and others, which the Catholic church covered up. But I was buoyed by how much David Marr cares about his subject, the passion of his anger — notwithstanding the sharp contrast with the consistently calculated and emotionally sterile response of Cardinal George Pell to the same abuses.

Some things I learned from David Marr:

  • The church would never have been able to cover up the large-scale abuse of children as it has without the collusion of the police and politicians
  • Australia is one of the last jurisdictions where the church’s financial assets are protected by law from litigation claims
  • No one in the current government or foreseeable future has the courage to challenge the church’s ancient claim to legal separateness, i.e. that is is answerable to the laws of Rome, rather than the laws of the state which apply to everyone else.

For all his criticisms of the church’s failure to address the criminal abuse of children, Marr demonstrated respect for the ‘good people’, including the whistle-blowers and advocates who have been ostracised by the hierarchy. My favourite of his comments: ‘I love nothing more at a book event than having an old nun come up to me and tell me I’m too soft.’

Australia’s Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sex Abuse is ongoing at the time of writing. But if Marr’s observations about the church’s legal and financial protection are anything to go by, justice for the survivors seems a long way off.

Congratulations to Simon Clews, Mary Dalmau and the team at Readers Feast for another great festival. I look forward to 2015.


About Angela Savage

Angela Savage is a Melbourne writer, who has lived and travelled extensively in Asia. She won the Victorian Premier’s Literary Award for an unpublished manuscript, and the Scarlet Stiletto Award short story award. Her latest novel is, Mother of Pearl, published by Transit Lounge. Angela holds a PhD in Creative Writing, is former CEO of Writers Victoria, and currently works as CEO of Public Libraries Victoria.
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8 Responses to Crime & Justice Festival 2014

  1. Margot Kinberg says:

    It sounds like a fascinating and eye-opening experience. I’m glad you enjoyed it and I’m equally glad that you shared it.


  2. FictionFan says:

    Fascinating stuff, Angela! Unbelieveable that you can be charged for ‘using contemptuous language against the President’ – it would seem the US is as hypocritical about freedom of speech as the UK has become recently.

    I’m currently reading a history of England where the very subject of whether the Roman Catholic Church should be subject to national law is in question – in 1605! 400 years later and it appears the question still hasn’t been answered…


  3. It’s amazing to me that though I’ve appeared in scores of panels and we have been friends for years, you manage to pose questions that surprise and challenge me – in addition to being a wonderful writer, you are a brilliant interviewer Angela Savage!

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  4. Kathy D. says:

    I agree that Angela asks great questions, from the interviews I’ve seen, as with Alexander McCall Smith.
    This must have been a fabulous event, such interesting writers. I’m not surprised about the revelations about the Guantanamo prosecutions, as we hear/read about this here; the prisoners are even denied the right to be on hunger strikes as a manner of protesting their horrific conditions.
    Interesting about the Catholic Church’s powers transcending those of civilian laws. It’s like they’re the military. I’m surprised this hasn’t been pushed back somewhat by now.
    But, over here in my state, women and liberal legislators have been trying to toughen the laws on reporting child sexual abuse to law enforcement for years now. Although teachers and social workers are required to report it, the Church is not. It’s astounding to me in this day and age.
    It must have been delightful to interview Robert Gott and Sulari Gentill. What smart people they are, and creative.
    And I sit here, still stunned by the grand jury’s decision not to indict the police officer who fatally shot 18-year-old Michael Brown as he ran.

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    • Thanks for your comments and compliments, Kathy. It was a fabulous event – I enjoy nothing more than being entertained and enlightened, and writers like Robert Gott and Sulari Gentill never fail to deliver in that regard.

      We are watching from Australia as the consequences of the Ferguson grand jury’s decision unfold. To be honest, I am amazed at the solidarity being shown across the USA. Indigenous Australians die in custody at alarming rates in this country, but you never see people rise up in response.


  5. Kathy D. says:

    Yes, solidarity does happen here. Protests all over the country. It happened after Trayvon Martin was killed and after George Zimmerman was acquitted. Last weekend, in the middle of the protests, a 12-year-old was killed by police in Cleveland. And a 28-year-old man killed in a Brooklyn building. Even the New York Times wrote a scathing editorial about the grand jury prosecutor and the high rate of police killings of Black male youth.
    Something has to change. Michael Brown’s parents thought they’d get justice and were shocked that it didn’t happen. It has to happen at some level.
    I’m sorry to hear about the lack of solidarity in Australia with Indigenous people, and that they die in custody.
    There was a protest in London in solidarity with the people of Ferguson.
    It would be good if protests could be held about the Indigenous in Australia. Yes.


  6. Tyson Adams says:

    Dan Mori sounds like an interesting guy. That point about the “hero” of A Few Good Men is fascinating. Great example of perception bias.

    As for the Catholic Church: they have too many pet politicians on both sides of politics for any action to happen. Religion, despite our laissez-faire attitude to religion and sizeable population of non-religious, in Australia wields a lot of power that is harmful to our nation. The child abuse is the most egregious aspect.

    Normally I’d write a joke at the end of my points, but some things just can’t be laughed about.


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